102 degrees in October!! Global warming, anyone?

News Type: Opinion — Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:01 AM EDT

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Arizonan

So, here I sit, waiting for the summer to end. I know, I know, technically it already has.

Until I see under 100 for a high, and under 80 for a low, I wont believe it.

I just want it cool enough to open the window at 10 at night, cool enough to stop running the AC 24/7.

That's all. Is it too much to ask?

Seems every year it is later and later.

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Arizonan

Am I the only one who wants a change in the weather?

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1 vote

#1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:02 AM EDT

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Pamela Drew

Am I the only one who wants a change in the weather?

You're getting change, just not the one you hoped for! *smirk*

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5 votes

#1.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:43 AM EDT

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Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

Well, scientists have figured out a couple of things they didn't know previously about global warming, that is, before 1990.

The changes are not the same around the globe. In some areas, heavier storms. In others, more rain and warmer winters. In others, it's just hotter.

The effects seem to be cumulative, meaning that the worse it gets, the faster it gets worse every year. I published an article a long time back at NV titled, 'When Was the First Time You Began to Think Global Warming was Real?'

My answer: December 24, 1998. I looked into the sky near Seattle and saw a flock of Canadian geese heading north. They usually didn't do this until closer to February. The following spring, the cherry blossoms sprouted about two weeks earlier, and they've been getting earlier ever since.

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4 votes

#1.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:03 PM EDT

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AJ in Missouri

I'm not discrediting global warming, but something most people don't know. We're in an odd point of earth climate changes. Scientists found for the majority of earth's existence, the climates used to be very radical and only in the past couple of thousands of years has settled down. The old climate would be like a Ice Age for one year then a sweltering heat and draught the next year. So its possible earth can be heading back to a time like this.

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#1.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:22 PM EDT

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JoulesBeef

please link to this info.. as we have a decent idea of the climate record and sure there have been times of extreme climate flips.. normally talking about over the period of a decade as "extreme". These can often be linked to natural disasters like asteroids or various outgasing do o earthquakes and other phenom that releases mass amounts of methane or co2 in a very short period of time.
So these instances are believed to be well understood.
If you are goign to suggest the earth is entering a period of volitile climate change.. you still have to list he underlying causes.. or at least a theory of those causes.. you cant just say.. "it's one of them natural cyclic things" without at least a workoign theory on what exactly is causing the "cyclic"

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1 vote

#1.4 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:42 PM EDT

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rottlady

You need to come to Missouri, it's been in th high 40's in the morning and high 70's during the day. I don't think I would like your weather...

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2 votes

#2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:10 AM EDT

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AJ in Missouri

Yes it has been, and I for one have been enjoying it!
Rott, let's take bets on that we'll have a heat wave in December? I'm saying 80's on Christmas Day :P

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1 vote

#2.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:22 AM EDT

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rapax

Just as long as we don't have another ice storm in MO....

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#2.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:34 PM EDT

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AJ in Missouri

Oh, my guess is we will, especially the way storms have been this fall, I'm used to bad ones in spring, but not one of this strength in fall. We half of our trees in our yard down, which is bad, we've only got 4 left, 1 of which is dead and will be getting cut down soon (lightning hit it)

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#2.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:48 PM EDT

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rottlady

You are probably right AJ on the warm weather in Dec. And heaven forbid if we have more ice storms! Ugh

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1 vote

#2.4 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:00 PM EDT

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Rigbee Dugane

Is 102 a record-breaker?

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#3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:04 PM EDT

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Arizonan

Actually it is not, it was 107 in 1980, but the normal high is 93. The average low is 63, and we have not yet gotten below 80 at night, I think it would make a big difference if we cooled off at night a little.

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#3.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:32 PM EDT

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jsbach

We are having a beautiful Indian summer here. The trees are starting to turn and everything is beautiful. The temperature is in the 70s and the nights are in the 50s. There's just one thing I hate about this time of the year. RAGWEED!! All of us in Oklahoma suffer from it.

Arizonan, I sympathize. Your state is one of the most beautiful but I would never be able to live with the heat. One good thing about it though is you don't have the humidity like we do here. You can't breathe sometimes.

Stay cool! Keep the AC on as it's better than having a heat-stroke.

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1 vote

#4 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:21 PM EDT

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Arizonan

One good thing about it though is you don't have the humidity like we do here. You can't breathe sometimes.

Yeah, yeah, it's a dry heat, just like the microwave. Haha.. we do get the miserable humidity in the summer, when we have the monsoon rains that come close and dissapate.

I am from Missouri, and do miss it so. Our son is moving to Oklahoma real soon, and we wish he would already, so we can go visit.

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#4.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:34 PM EDT

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Jimmy James

I don't want to be all sweaty in my Halloween costume

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#5 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:25 PM EDT

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Chris Cone

Let me first appologize for any spelling mistakes I might make. The spell checker never works when I leave comments for some reason, and spelling is by biggest weakness.

Although specific areas have been warmer than usual and later in the year, if you head to most places east of the Rockies it has been a very cool summer. In my area, Connecticut, I believe we only reached 90+ degrees 6 times this entire year, the average is 18. Parts of Georgia are already getting frost. I have kept close track on "global warming." To me, it seems "global warming" is more astronomical than it is man-made. I know no argument for man-made global warming has been made in this article. However, I hear the term "man made global warming" on a daily basis, and it angers me quite a bit. Nobody ever wants to relate anything to do with the solar cycles, or the solar system's position in our galaxy to global warming. However, both things have HUGE effects. There is a lot of "doomsday" suggestions about this, but that is not the case I am making. However, it is a fact that our solar system will pass through the center of the galaxy between 2010 and 2015. Now when I say center, I don't mean the exact center if that was the case we'd be heading towards a black hole. What I mean is, our solar system rises above and passes below a central plain in our galaxy. It does not simply ROTATE around the galaxy, but it also moves up and down very much if you placed a small object on a bent record and turned on your record player. Same effect. A tremendous amount of energy has been detected in the region we are about to pass through, originating from our galaxy's black hole. As a matter of fact, the amount of energy some scientists have seen is 800 times that of our own sun. It is not in the visible light spectrum, therefor it is only a recent discover. But, have you ever seen those pictures on MSNBC of our galaxy, and a big beam of light coming from the center? Those pictures were taken with a different spectrum therefor this energy was visible.

So, I am not taking this as 100% fact... however if it is true that this amount of energy exists in the center of our galaxy the following effects would take place on Earth (and all other planetary bodies and the sun and any active moons in the solar system)

- a rapid increase in climate fluxuations

- eventual slight changes in orbital patterns

- dramatically increased, and to-this-date unseen solar activity (very shortly before we pass through the center of the Milky Way)

- electro-magnetic disruption

- effects include not one, not two, but EVERY effect that this "global warming" has and is predicted to have on our planet.

In addition, our solar cycles have a huge impact. When there is less sunspots, less energy reaches the Earth therefor it gets cooler. (notice the cool summer across most of the world, in a period when there was little to no sunspots). The more sunspots, generally the warmer and stormier the weather. STORMIER? BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF TROPICAL CYCLONES THIS YEAR! That's probably your first thought.... but here's the deal... more storminess is actually BAD for tropical cyclone development. When you have more storm systems rotating around the Earth, there is much more wind-sheer that will tear about tropical cyclones. This year, there was a huge lack in areas of low-pressure, and a lot of high pressure. This lowered the sheer and allowed more tropical systems to develop.

This brings up another point. You can't predict more severe thunderstorms, tornadoes, and general on-land severe weather and say more tropical cyclones are going to happen at the same time. WHY? Because IF severe weather increases on land, it will be because more frontal systems will be crossing land. Once these systems move over water, they create wind-shear. The only real opportunity for a tropical cyclone to form off a frontal boundery is at the very southern most end of it... although on great occasions there is an exception, as is there is in all things-weather.

So - back to the main topic. I don't know what the Earth's average temperature will be this year, but I know it has not broken a record in at least a couple years and it seems to be this year the average temp is going to be significantly lower than last year. Significant would be .05 degrees F or more.

This would not coorispond with any of the well known global warming theories, or even my astronomical theory. It is because of that I don't use the term "Global Warming" very often, and when I do I do not affiliate it with man because there is actually more proof against the manmade theory than for it. Politics tends to like to ignore one side of every story.

Well anyway, I have read that at least 5 new sunspots have been detected, ending the stunningly quiet "lull" in sunspots. Therefor, you can expect a) warmer average global temps b) more on-land storminess and c) possibly a drop in tropical cyclone activity unless sea-surface temperatures rise significantly in short periods of time.

And any other climate change that comes along, I think 10% can be blamed on man... but the other 90%? Try looking at the stars, and the sun (not literally, of course). You will be surprised at how much more sense astronomically caused global warming makes, than the politically manufactured man-made global warming.

So I hope I cleared some stuff up for people, not to mention educated. Have a nice day! Hopefully the bailout won't pass!

-Chris Cone

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2 votes

#6 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 8:45 AM EDT

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Arizonan

And any other climate change that comes along, I think 10% can be blamed on man

I do believe that our "warming" here in the "Valley of the sun", is due to man, or rather men, woman, and children.

I know when I first moved came here in 1970, that we were surrounded by fields of corn and cotton, and orange groves. There were many parts of our metro area that were nothingness, long drives to the next "town", and it used to cool off signifigantly in the evenings, even in summer.

The population of the city in which I live was around 35,000 people. Now it is near 500,000 and there is no "driving" from city to city, rather it is one vast city, that can only be determined by the signs saying you are entering the next.

Cement, Clay and glass.. that is where our nightime warming comes from. When daily temps are in the 100's, it never cools at night anymore.

We did get down to a nice 80's for a high over the weekend, but by Tuesday supposed to be pushing 100 again.

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#6.1 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 10:53 AM EDT

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ARIZONAN

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102 degrees in October!! Global warming, anyone?

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